Buffet Crampon Clarinet Serial Number Chart
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Help identifying Buffet model Author: Date: 2005-06-17 21:16 Hi I have an older Buffet clarinet and need help identifying its model. I can't find anything that describes the difference between an E-11 and R-13 and I'm fairly certain it's one of the two. It's made of wood, I assume grenadilla, and has the serial number 126371. Running the number at buffet's website yields an R-13 dated 1972 or an E-11 dated 1974. The date range seems correct to me, given the wear on the keys and the fading of the serial number and logo stamps.
Topalt vcard importexport activation code. Buffet Crampon is a French manufacturer of woodwind musical instruments, including oboes. Buffet Crampon has released several clarinet models from the mid-20th century. Model sub-numbers are similar to the 6000 series as above.
The reference here (seems to indicate that a 5-digit serial is the E model while a 6-digit is the R model. Is this correct? Is there anything on the clarinet to indicate its model? Re: Help identifying Buffet model Author: Date: 2005-06-17 21:38 I believe that the R13 is the only Buffet clarinet that does not have its model number stamped onto the top joint. For example, a E11 should have 'E11' stamped.
Re: Help identifying Buffet model Author: Date: 2005-06-17 21:48 E11 should also have 'Germany' and other words engraved on it. Bob Draznik Re: Help identifying Buffet model Author: Date: 2005-06-17 21:53 The only stamps are the Buffet logo and serial number -- must be an R-13! Thanks for your help and quick responses! Re: Help identifying Buffet model Author: ★2017 Date: 2005-06-17 21:55 If a Buffet has no model marking, it is an R-13. Thus, your instrument 126371 is an R-13, from early 1972. As you can see from the serial number list, in 1928, Buffet switched from letters and numbers to numbers-only, beginning at 1.
I have several instruments with 4-digit serial numbers, so the number of digits is not determinative. From 1928 through 1954, the instrument had no particular designation (although there were various catalog numbers in the form 'R' followed by a number, with the number representing the presence of various extra keys). Around the beginning of 1955, in the high 47XXX serial number range, Buffet switched to the R-13. The highest pre-R-13 serial number I know of is 48707 (1954), and the lowest R-13 I know of is 48830. Clark Fobes's article at notes that by that time, the design had been changed from the original R-13. For example, the outside diameter of the wood had been slightly enlarged.
My main instruments were made in 1971 and 1973, with serial numbers not far from yours. Enjoy your R-13. Ken Shaw Re: Help identifying Buffet model Author: Date: 2005-06-17 22:51 *****Running the number at buffet's website yields an R-13 dated 1972 or an E-11 dated 1974.***** Buffet did not make clarinets marked 'E11' in 1974 Vytas Krass Professional clarinet technician Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker Former professional clarinet player Re: Help identifying Buffet model Author: Date: 2005-06-17 23:13 I normally would have agreed that the lack of a model number makes it an R13, but I recently ran across a Buffet with no model designation that was made in Germany. It obviously was not an R13. Re: Help identifying Buffet model Author: Date: 2005-06-18 00:18 Vytas is correct.
Buffet made all clarinets in Paris during the early 70's. During this time period no clarinet, professional or student was stamped with a model number. Measuring the Clarinets bore is the most reliable method to determine the clarinets classification keep in mind today Buffet recycles serial numbers. Re: Help identifying Buffet model Author: Date: 2005-06-18 00:19 Until around 1980 only professional Buffet clarinets had the Buffet logo. Markings on all section should read: 'Buffet Crampon & Cie, A Paris, BC, Made in France'. From around 1980 the Buffet logo appears on all models, but the marking 'Made in France' below BC is missing on student level clarinets made in Germany. Vytas Krass Professional clarinet technician Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker Former professional clarinet player Re: Help identifying Buffet model Author: Date: 2005-06-18 00:59 Isn't the the wooden Evette which was made in Germany the same horn that became the E11?